tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post1679194665798596853..comments2024-03-22T03:28:24.897-04:00Comments on Recording Industry vs The People: RIAA Launches New Offensive Against College Studentsraybeckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-3264255974638142492007-04-16T15:32:00.000-04:002007-04-16T15:32:00.000-04:00My son just recieved the April 11th version from h...My son just recieved the April 11th version from his university. I have contacted 2 lawyers and am waiting to see their opinions on how we should proceed. He had 44 recordings some of the others had thousands. Can you negotiate based on the amount that you have?Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08285410886444737150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-6436021723662684742007-03-03T14:59:00.000-05:002007-03-03T14:59:00.000-05:00Thanks for the tip, alter_fritz.Thanks for the tip, alter_fritz.raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-45484563882962494312007-03-03T14:24:00.000-05:002007-03-03T14:24:00.000-05:00Mr. Kelso of HRO already wrote the first letters!F...Mr. Kelso of HRO already wrote the first letters!<BR/>For those that aren't students any more or those students in Colorado/10th circuit court district that might not get one of those themself, this is how they look like:<BR/>http://p2pnet.net/story/11515<BR/>http://www.p2pnet.net/stuff/riaalet.pdfAlter_Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861406779872744163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-36679001311647344442007-03-01T22:02:00.000-05:002007-03-01T22:02:00.000-05:00I think that someone ought to sue for violation of...I think that someone ought to sue for violation of "innocent till proven guilty" here. I also think that Ray Beckerman should offer to debate Mitch Bainwol on the usefulness of this program and this lawsuit campaign.StephenHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106243367366411553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-33689821456244683422007-03-01T15:22:00.000-05:002007-03-01T15:22:00.000-05:00I hope that the universities will defend their stu...I hope that the universities will defend their students and will help their students find out what their legal rights are.raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-86700241138465791482007-03-01T13:24:00.000-05:002007-03-01T13:24:00.000-05:00Are any of these colleges actually defending their...Are any of these colleges actually defending their student's privacy? One would expect that the payment of $10,000+ tuition a year would entitle the students to some privacy on the networks of the schools. I sent an email to my alma mater (Miami University) to find out what their particular policies are policies are regarding the students who go there. If I don't like their answer I'm done giving to them forever. I would encourage students and alumni to find out what their universities' policies are when they recieve a request for student information.<BR/><BR/>CT<BR/>2L at OSUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-3789517578520717372007-03-01T11:28:00.000-05:002007-03-01T11:28:00.000-05:00One other thing: Don't colleges and universities b...One other thing: Don't colleges and universities believe in defending academic freedom anymore? The RIAA is obliquely assaulting that.<BR/><BR/>Also: I'm interested in knowing whether HR&O is targeting the music industry's customers in the state of Colorado. If not, I would like to know why.Scott Fergusonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03236671015543564727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-53255838405132037122007-03-01T11:22:00.000-05:002007-03-01T11:22:00.000-05:00Ray, you might be able to hepl me out here:One poi...Ray, you might be able to hepl me out here:<BR/>One point that I don't understand;<BR/>Those students that the RIAA want ot reach with this "program", they download a product that is NOT offered legally by those copyrightholders themself.<BR/>If someone does not offer to sell a product to these students in the form they want to have it, how can the RIAA as the mouthpiece of the copyrightholders claim that they suffer any damage? No offer to sell = no request to buy = no damage suffered I guess.<BR/><BR/>And as a subpoint of this argument; the "not for sale" product that those students wish to have on their PCs and Musicplayers is only a, by ~90% of the original artistic and copyrighted creation, reduced piece of information.<BR/>Why haven't we seen any defense yet that the files that are alledgedly copied in those cases are NOT the copyrighted work?<BR/>Using only 10% of a copyrighted work that is not even legally available from the copyrightholders - should that not be no copyrightinfringement at all but fair use?Alter_Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861406779872744163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-3755863244339383822007-03-01T11:13:00.000-05:002007-03-01T11:13:00.000-05:00The RIAA "incriminate yourself" site is going to b...The RIAA "incriminate yourself" site is going to be as ineffective as your typical police department gun buyback program. The premise is stupid.<BR/><BR/>Did HR&O dream this up? More to the point, does HR&O actually care whether or not the campaign they're waging is hurting the business of their clients?<BR/><BR/>We can never know whether the RIAA is waging this campaign against the better judgment of HR&O, or if HR&O is egging the RIAA on so that the firm can keep the bills flowing. If it's the former, then I pity them. If it's the latter, then it's a thumb in the eye of the legal profession.<BR/><BR/>To reiterate from an earlier comment, lawyers are trained to think tactically, not strategically. Hiring a law firm is a tactical decision and is often appropriate; but if it's based on bad business strategy, then the best tactics in the world won't save the business.<BR/><BR/>From the outside, it sure seems like the lawyers are running the music industry. <I>Molto stupido,</I> Edgar.Scott Fergusonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03236671015543564727noreply@blogger.com