tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post4259498033828834088..comments2024-03-22T03:28:24.897-04:00Comments on Recording Industry vs The People: In Response to Dismissal Motion in Elektra v. Schwartz, RIAA Asks Defendant's Lawyer to Help Them Re-draft Complaintraybeckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-21355673952868978912007-10-02T11:53:00.000-04:002007-10-02T11:53:00.000-04:00amd.... in this case the cooperation they were ask...amd.... in this case the cooperation they were asking for would have been impossible.... they were asking me to help them make up facts.... these guys have zero legal ethics and zero appreciation of the fact that <B>this is not a game.... they are destroying people's lives with this....</B>raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-72495202352066101332007-10-02T11:31:00.000-04:002007-10-02T11:31:00.000-04:00Wouldn't it be a complete breach of ethics to assi...Wouldn't it be a complete breach of ethics to assist the other side to the determent of your client?<BR/><BR/>And if so, shouldn't it also be a similar breach for the other side to have even asked for this?AMD FanBoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11864029976202105778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-80252796359280993152007-10-01T23:39:00.000-04:002007-10-01T23:39:00.000-04:00Well I've been feeling pretty guilty about my less...Well I've been feeling pretty guilty about my less-than-helpful response to Mr. Gabriel's friendly request for assistance.<BR/><BR/>So I'll give him some free advice.<BR/><BR/>Richard, don't sue anyone in Montana.raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-78889944249748629542007-10-01T23:31:00.000-04:002007-10-01T23:31:00.000-04:00sorry, oviously I messed up the (search results sc...sorry, oviously I messed up the (search results scripted) link to the written order.<BR/>If either of you other readers are interested in an (IMO fascinating) reading about paintings, forgeries of them, and very very bad behaviour of a lawfirm you can get to the free document in Montanas database following these steps<BR/><A HREF="http://fnweb1.isd.doa.state.mt.us/idmws/custom/sll/SLL_FN_Home.htm" REL="nofollow">Click here</A> and choose "Supreme Court Case Number" enter 05-378 so the search finds 7 documents in the database which are javascriptclickable links to the actual document locations.<BR/><BR/>Btw. it's quite some fun to actually watch(!) the hearing and when it gets interesting at around 62 minutes into the arguments and then imagine for the fun of it and/or rightfull administering of justice that it would/could/should be HRO and RIAA-Richard they are refering about in the last 15 minutes or so of counterargument and rebuttal (sp?) <I>"bring em on"</I> :-)Alter_Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861406779872744163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-49578421912472430282007-10-01T21:38:00.000-04:002007-10-01T21:38:00.000-04:00Well, Alter_Fritz, you caught me in an error. I gu...Well, Alter_Fritz, you caught me in an error. I guess it was a Freudian slip. I think of the record companies as the ones who are violating the law and ignoring copyright law, so think of them as 'pirates'. <BR/><BR/>I think Morton v. Seltzer shows that Mr. Gabriel and his firm might themselves be 'defendants' based on their "legal thuggery".raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-4117341974621556932007-10-01T19:08:00.000-04:002007-10-01T19:08:00.000-04:00"For your reference, attached is a copy of the dec..."<I>For your reference, attached is a copy of the decision in Morton v. Seltzer, 336 Mont. 225, 154 P.3d 561 (2007), where a plaintiffs' law firm was held liable to the defendant for damages for conduct quite similar to your conduct in the instant case.</I>"<BR/><BR/>The decision:<BR/><BR/>http://fnweb1.isd.doa.state.mt.us/idmws/docContent.dll?Library=CISDOCSVR01^doaisd510&ID=003768619<BR/><BR/>and thanks to an oviously innovative judicial branch in montana we can also listen to the oral argument** <BR/>(Alter_Fritz's personal opinion: Wow, that is a cool and inovative use of internet age technologies. If only everybody would adopt so well to the digital age (specially some notorious undisclosed plaintiffs *cough* *cough*)<BR/><BR/>** http://audiovideo1.law.umt.edu:8080/W.%20Steve%20Seltzer%20v.%20Steve%20Morton%206-28-06 (292765.4KB <I>Online Media Distribution System</I> Streaming found via http://montanacourts.org/argument_archive.asp )<BR/><BR/>now if only we could get streaming out of Duluth too!<BR/><BR/><BR/>P.S.<BR/>@Ray <BR/>Is there any hope that you already secretly know more about the upcomming fate of the label plaintiffs in Elektra v. Schwartz or was it (unfortunately) just a "misspoke error" (sp?) "<I>We write in response to the October 1, 2007, letter of <B>defendants</B>, to point out that [...]</I>" <BR/><BR/>;-)Alter_Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861406779872744163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-56846848660503381372007-10-01T17:57:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:57:00.000-04:00I posted a story on "Slashdot". My submission is p...I posted <A HREF="http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=310477" REL="nofollow">a story</A> on "Slashdot". My submission is presently in the "Firehose".raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-87343730238058305202007-10-01T17:53:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:53:00.000-04:00Yes, stevger, I was astounded that they made the m...Yes, stevger, I was astounded that they made the mistake of bringing them to the Court's attention, and placing them in the public record.raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-815650919568500792007-10-01T17:38:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:38:00.000-04:00I'm surprised they made those emails available in ...I'm surprised they made those emails available in the public record. It makes them look like fools and idiots (well more than before, anyway).Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11614476636757970454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-63447949836855461492007-10-01T17:32:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:32:00.000-04:00They are a piece of work, are they not?I must conf...They are a piece of work, are they not?<BR/><BR/>I must confess that I did have much longer responses drafted, and it took all of my restraint and professionalism to cut them back down to what was necessary.raybeckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063235302436280455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-68128681353853647302007-10-01T16:33:00.000-04:002007-10-01T16:33:00.000-04:00Oh good grief."Excuse me, sir, would you be so goo...Oh good grief.<BR/><BR/>"Excuse me, sir, would you be so good as to tell me what I need to write down in order to sue your client more effectively? I found this bar membership in a box of Cracker Jack and am trying to sort out how it all works."<BR/><BR/>I'm sure Ray's responses are far more tactful than mine would be in a similar situation.Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07525693814586027275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-50430644882891755022007-10-01T16:27:00.000-04:002007-10-01T16:27:00.000-04:00One additional point: The shorter letter should al...One additional point: The shorter letter should always win. The reasoning behind this should be axiomatic.AMD FanBoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11864029976202105778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15479871.post-20599884287811882282007-10-01T16:06:00.000-04:002007-10-01T16:06:00.000-04:00The RIAA has GOT to be kidding!The RIAA has GOT to be kidding!AMD FanBoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11864029976202105778noreply@blogger.com