Recording Industry vs The People: RIAA Requests Permission to File "Sur-Reply" Brief in Warner v. Cassin; Files it Anyway

Wednesday, August 22, 2007

RIAA Requests Permission to File "Sur-Reply" Brief in Warner v. Cassin; Files it Anyway

In Warner v. Cassin, the RIAA has taken the unusual step of making a motion for leave to file a sur-reply brief, and the even more unusual step of filing a sur-reply brief without the Court's permission having been granted.

The proposed brief would be in response to the reply memorandum served by Ms. Cassin in response to the RIAA's papers in opposition to Ms. Cassin's motion to dismiss the complaint.

Ms. Cassin opposed the "motion".

Motion for Leave to file Sur-Reply Brief*
Proposed Surreply Brief*
August 22, 2007, Letter of Ray Beckerman opposing Motion for Leave to file Sur-Reply Brief*

* Document published online at Internet Law & Regulation

Keywords: digital copyright online law legal download upload peer to peer p2p file sharing filesharing music movies indie independent label freeculture creative commons pop/rock artists riaa independent mp3 cd favorite songs

10 comments:

AMD FanBoi said...: It's clear that the RIAA doesn't believe in following any rules except their own, and attempt to rewrite laws to fit their vision of how laws should be written. As such, they seek to usurp two of the three branches of the federal government (legislative and judiciary), although they were never elected or appointed to do so by the American people.; August 22, 2007 at 2:44:00 PM EDT
Alter_Fritz said...: if it wouldn't be so sad, it actually would be funny.

Plaintiffs complain about cherry picking from a transcript in a case they claim is unrelated.

First it isn't cherry picking when counsel does exactly what the individual motion practices of a Judge suggests, namely only citing the relevant parts of transcripts.
Second, how they can argue that Elektra vs Barker is an "unrelated case" must be for everyone that is following those RIAAvsPeople cases beyond believe.
It's those Plaintiffs that had argued time and time again that because some totally strangers to each other are very well related cases jsut because it is the alleged same misconduct (copyrightinfringement) via the same Medium (Internet) alegedly damaging a same set of plaintiffs.
Thy even argued that because of this those cases are so strongly releated that they even file one mass lumping together unrelated Doe's suit which Judges has ordered to be against the law.
Make up your Mind plaintiffs what your lawyers should argument. With sane jduges you can't have it both ways!

What I would call cherry picking (or is it nit picking?) is Mr. Moron's smart ass argument that it was childpornography and not drugs in this criminal case they cited.
All those different counsels for the Plaintiffs brought up so many ludicrous analogies like file trafficking instead of -sharing for example, that a simple misspeaking on defendants side does not warrant what Plaintiffs had done here with this sur-reply.

Even more since plaintiffs did not deny that their case citation was not about "distribution" in the context of an infringement of copyrightlaw which is what matters here and not their so called "common sense approach" in a criminal case. How can Mr. Moron and Mr. Guida cite common sense when they and their organised music Clients clearly lacks exactly that?; August 22, 2007 at 3:34:00 PM EDT
raybeckerman said...: mhoyes62, I'm sorry but I had to reject your comment because the first half of it implied that US v. Shaffer had something to do with ocpyright cases, which it does not.; August 22, 2007 at 5:15:00 PM EDT
rtk said...: "As such, they seek to usurp two of the three branches of the federal government (legislative and judiciary), although they were never elected or appointed to do so by the American people."

@amd fanboi

Maybe the RIAA thinks thinks they are Cheney. Let's just hope they don't shoot anybody in the face.; August 22, 2007 at 9:08:00 PM EDT
Macros said...: I'd almost place money on the RIAA saying "oops, we didn't meant to file the sur-reply, please ignore it" or something equally similar.; August 22, 2007 at 9:13:00 PM EDT
Michael Hoffman said...: It's Lexis, not Lexus. Please feel free to delete this comment after reading.; August 23, 2007 at 5:01:00 AM EDT
Reluctant Raconteur said...: amd fanboi: As such, they seek to usurp two of the three branches of the federal government (legislative and judiciary), although they were never elected or appointed to do so by the American people.

With their influence at the copyright board (web broadcasts) I would say they have the executive branch covered too; August 23, 2007 at 12:42:00 PM EDT
Anonymous said...: Professor Nesson has started a facebook group in support of Joel Tenenbaum's case against RIAA.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=37707326867; December 2, 2008 at 2:40:00 PM EST
Anonymous said...: Sorry, the group is:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=37707326867; December 2, 2008 at 2:41:00 PM EST
Anonymous said...: well, i dont know why the full group number is not showing up.
Search for the group "joel fights back against RIAA"; December 2, 2008 at 2:42:00 PM EST

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JUDICIAL QUOTATIONS

"[T]he Court is concerned about the lack of facts establishing that Defendant was using that IP address at that particular time. Indeed, the [complaint] does not explain what link, if any, there is between Defendant and the IP address. It is possible that Plaintiff sued Defendant because he is the subscriber to IP address .... As recognized by many courts, just because an IP address is registered to an individual does not mean that he or she is guilty of infringement when that IP address is used to commit infringing activity." -Hon. Barry Ted Moskowitz, Chief Judge, S.D. California. January 29, 2013, AF Holdings v. Rogers
"The complaints assert that the defendants – identified only by IP address – were the individuals who downloaded the subject “work” and participated in the BitTorrent swarm. However, the assumption that the person who pays for Internet access at a given location is the same individual who allegedly downloaded a single sexually explicit film is tenuous, and one that has grown more so over time." - Hon. Gary R. Brown, Magistrate Judge, E.D.N.Y. May 1, 2012, K-Beech v. Does 1-37
"The concern of this Court is that in these lawsuits, potentially meritorious legal and factual defenses are not being litigated, and instead, the federal judiciary is being used as a hammer by a small group of plaintiffs to pound settlements out of unrepresented defendants."
-Hon. S. James Otero, Dist. Judge, Central Dist. California, March 2, 2007, Elektra v. O'Brien, 2007 ILRWeb (P&F) 1555
"The University has adequately demonstrated that it is not able to identify the alleged infringers with a reasonable degree of technical certainty...[C]ompliance with the subpoena as to the IP addresses represented by these Defendants would expose innocent parties to intrusive discovery....[T]he Court declines to authorize discovery and quashes the subpoena as to Does # 8, 9, and 14" -Hon. Nancy Gertner, Dist. Judge, Dist. Massachusetts, November 24, 2008, London-Sire Records v. Does 1-4
"[C]ounsel representing the record companies have an ethical obligation to fully understand that they are fighting people without lawyers... that the formalities of this are basically bankrupting people, and it's terribly critical that you stop it...." -Hon. Nancy Gertner, Dist. Judge, Dist. Massachusetts, June 17, 2008, London-Sire v. Does 1-4
"Rule 11(b)(3) requires that a representation in a pleading have evidentiary support and one wonders if the Plaintiffs are intentionally flouting that requirement in order to make their discovery efforts more convenient or to avoid paying the proper filing fees. In my view, the Court would be well within its power to direct the Plaintiffs to show cause why they have not violated Rule 11(b) with their allegations respecting joinder. [I]t is difficult to ignore the kind of gamesmanship that is going on here.....These plaintiffs have devised a clever scheme... to obtain court-authorized discovery prior to the service of complaints, but it troubles me that they do so with impunity and at the expense of the requirements of Rule 11(b)(3) because they have no good faith evidentiary basis to believe the cases should be joined." -Hon. Margaret J. Kravchuk, Magistrate Judge, District of Maine, January 25, 2008, Arista v. Does 1-27, 2008 WL 222283, modified Oct. 29, 2008
"[N]either the parties' submissions nor the Court's own research has revealed any case holding the mere owner of an internet account contributorily or vicariously liable for the infringing activities of third persons.....In addition to the weakness of the secondary copyright infringement claims against Ms. Foster, there is a question of the plaintiffs' motivations in pursuing them..... [T]here is an appearance that the plaintiffs initiated the secondary infringement claims to press Ms. Foster into settlement after they had ceased to believe she was a direct or "primary" infringer." -Hon. Lee R. West, District Judge, Western District of Oklahoma, February 6, 2007, Capitol v. Foster, 2007 WL 1028532
"[A]n overwhelming majority of cases brought by recording companies against individuals are resolved without so much as an appearance by the defendant, usually through default judgment or stipulated dismissal.....The Defendant Does cannot question the propriety of joinder if they do not set foot in the courthouse." -Hon. S. James Otero, Central District of California, August 29, 2007, SONY BMG v. Does 1-5, 2007 ILRWeb (P&F) 2535
"Plaintiffs are ordered to file any future cases of this nature against one defendant at a time, and may not join defendants for their convenience."
-Hon. Sam Sparks and Hon. Lee Yeakel, District Judges, Western District of Texas, November 17, 2004, Fonovisa v. Does 1-41, 2004 ILRWeb (P&F) 3053
"The Court is unaware of any other authority that authorizes the ex parte subpoena requested by plaintiffs."
-Hon. Walter D. Kelley, Jr., District Judge, Eastern District of Virginia, July 12, 2007, Interscope v. Does 1-7, 494 F. Supp. 2d 388, vacated on reconsideration 6/20/08
"Plaintiffs contend that unless the Court allows ex parte immediate discovery, they will be irreparably harmed. While the Court does not dispute that infringement of a copyright results in harm, it requires a Coleridgian "suspension of disbelief" to accept that the harm is irreparable, especially when monetary damages can cure any alleged violation. On the other hand, the harm related to disclosure of confidential information in a student or faculty member's Internet files can be equally harmful.....Moreover, ex parte proceedings should be the exception, not the rule."
-Hon. Lorenzo F. Garcia, Magistrate Judge, District of New Mexico, May 24, 2007, Capitol v. Does 1-16, 2007 WL 1893603
"'Statutory damages must still bear some relation to actual damages." Hon. Michael J. Davis, Dist. Judge, U.S.District Court, Dist. Minnesota, January 22, 2010, Capitol Records v. Thomas-Rasset
"[T]his court finds that defendants' use of the same ISP and P2P networks to allegedly commit copyright infringement is, without more, insufficient for permissive joinder under Rule 20. This court will sever not only the moving defendants from this action, but all other Doe defendants except Doe 2."
-Hon. W. Earl Britt, District Judge, Eastern District of North Carolina, February 27, 2008, LaFace v. Does 1-38, 2008 WL 544992
"[L]arge awards of statutory damages can raise due process concerns. Extending the reasoning of Gore and its progeny, a number of courts have recognized that an award of statutory damages may violate due process if the amount of the award is "out of all reasonable proportion" to the actual harm caused by a defendant's conduct.[T]hese cases are doubtlessly correct to note that a punitive and grossly excessive statutory damages award violates the Due Process Clause....."Hon. Marilyn Hall Patel, Dist. Judge, N.D. California, June 1, 2005, In re Napster, 2005 US DIST Lexis 11498, 2005 WL 1287611
"[P]laintiffs can cite to no case foreclosing the applicability of the due process clause to the aggregation of minimum statutory damages proscribed under the Copyright Act. On the other hand, Lindor cites to case law and to law review articles suggesting that, in a proper case, a court may extend its current due process jurisprudence prohibiting grossly excessive punitive jury awards to prohibit the award of statutory damages mandated under the Copyright Act if they are grossly in excess of the actual damages suffered....."-Hon. David G. Trager, Senior District Judge, Eastern Dist. New York, November 9, 2006, UMG v. Lindor, 2006 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 83486, 2006 WL 3335048
"'[S]tatutory damages should bear some relation to actual damages suffered'....(citations omitted) and 'cannot be divorced entirely from economic reality'". -Hon. Shira A. Scheindlin, Dist. Judge, Southern Dist. New York, August 19, 2008, Yurman v. Castaneda
"The Court would be remiss if it did not take this opportunity to implore Congress to amend the Copyright Act to address liability and damages in peer to peer network cases.... The defendant is an individual, a consumer. She is not a business. She sought no profit from her acts..... [T]he damages awarded in this case are wholly disproportionate to the damages suffered by Plaintiffs." -Hon. Michael J. Davis, District Judge, Dist. Minnesota, September 24, 2008, Capitol v. Thomas
"If there is an asymmetry in copyright, it is one that actually favors defendants. The successful assertion of a copyright confirms the plaintiff's possession of an exclusive, and sometimes very valuable, right, and thus gives it an incentive to spend heavily on litigation. In contrast, a successful defense against a copyright claim, when it throws the copyrighted work into the public domain, benefits all users of the public domain, not just the defendant; he obtains no exclusive right and so his incentive to spend on defense is reduced and he may be forced into an unfavorable settlement." US Court of Appeals, 7th Cir., July 9, 2008, Eagle Services Corp. v. H20 Industrial Services, Inc., 532 F.3d 620
"Customers who download music and movies for free would not necessarily spend money to acquire the same product.....RIAA’s request problematically assumes that every illegal download resulted in a lost sale."
-Hon. James P. Jones, Dist. Judge, Western Dist. Virginia, November 7, 2008, USA v. Dove